Britain could join the coalition against ISIS, too

"El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!" (lightningzone) 09/24/2014 at 17:43 • Filed to: None

0

10

Looks like Germany sits another one out.

Scaredy cats.

T5Killer > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 09/24/2014 at 17:46

0

Nah the Germans want to wait for the dust to settle and sell weapons to who is left standing.

Leon711 > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 09/24/2014 at 18:01

2

Are Sweden sitting it out also? (hit play for glorious 8 bit ABBA)

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > Leon711 09/24/2014 at 18:10

0

There are no news regarding a Swedish involvement, yet. They also sat out of Iraq.

Leon711 > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 09/24/2014 at 18:15

1

I knew this, I just wanted an excuse to post Swedish Nyan Cat.

BZiel > T5Killer 09/24/2014 at 18:57

0

We have been selling weapons there, as have the Americans, since at least 1991.

Spoon II > Leon711 09/24/2014 at 20:41

0

This makes me inexplicably happy!

Klaus Schmoll > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 09/25/2014 at 08:05

0

Germany isn't sitting it out. We are delivering weapons to the Kurds and are training them in Iraq as well as flying them to Germany to train them here.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > Klaus Schmoll 09/25/2014 at 17:10

0

That's like the CIA, and some SWAT units training mall cops to take on organized crime, drug dealers and domestic terrorists. Sometimes, if you want the job done, you need to do it yourself, instead of outsourcing it.

Klaus Schmoll > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 09/25/2014 at 17:40

0

Given our past, we are wary of doing "out of country" stuff! We helped out in the Balkan war with troops on the ground, we have/had troops in Afghanistan controlling/or trying to control the north with that clusterfuck that H. W. did there. And we are now delivering weapons to and training people active in a war zone, something we swore never to do again. This did incite very vicious political debates. as it should have.

We are aware of the fact that being an economic force to be reckoned with comes with some responsibilities. It's just just that we don't want to "start another war" wherever that may be.

Give us a little break here! We are doing the best we CAN! But German bombers dropping bombs on foreign soil is a no-go for us! Been there, done that, didn't get the T-shirt.

There are heavy debates going on right now about how we could help this effort and what we should do. It's just that we are ladden with historic guilt, and rightly so. So excuse us for thinking twice before shooting a bullet.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > Klaus Schmoll 09/25/2014 at 18:49

0

Well, if other people consider you less guilty then you consider yourself, maybe you should listen to them. I keep telling people that they should be less concerned about the past and more about the future. A rifle could be used both to leave a kid without his parents and to save one's family, and even provide a family with food(ok, hunting for food is old and obsolete, but you get the point), it all depends on how you use it.

If a missile launched from that plane will kill the dickhead who beheaded two innocent people, nobody will think about what you did in the WW2, but will rather congratulate you for doing justice. Of course that it will be some Nazi jokes, but those will be friendly teasing, just like we do with the Canadians or the French or the Japanese. Remember that UK vs. Germany Top Gear thingy? It was funny, even for us, Americans. Past wars and rivalries are much easier to get over if you joke about them.

And there's another way you can bypass debates: push for unified EU armed forces. Nobody will make Hitler jokes if there are European troops operating alongside the allies, instead of German troops.

I can already see the slogan: The new EU Army: As guilt free as Coke Life, join today!!

I mean the scene of global military operations and geopolitics was fun to watch, when it was America vs crazy ass Islamic terrorists, but with Russia causing crisis at EU's back door, Europe needs to take a stand.

Unfortunately, you seem to be irrelevant in today's world, if you have economic power, but don't have the military power to back it up(Japan is learning this the hard way, with China affording to do things it was afraid to do 15 or 20 years ago), it shouldn't really be that way, but that's the way it is.

This picture of European soldiers, posing in front of the EU Parliament won't scare away Putin, unless he sees armed forces, fighting terrorism, under the European flag and knowing those forces could be a really tenacious opposition for him too, if he tries anything stupid. Right now Russia and China(and the republicans, probably) see the EU as a bunch of wimpy bureaucrats who will hide under their desks and let the mighty Russian army reach the Atlantic as Stalin originally dreamed to do.